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Post by trojansrule on Dec 26, 2006 15:52:12 GMT -5
Well, now that all the gold balls have been handed out, and there's not a lot to talk about until basketball playoffs approach as well as signing day, I thought I would bring up this topic to see if anyone else has ideas for rules in any sport they would like to see changed. Maybe this is just my pet peeve.
Here's some I would like to see (mine happen to all involve HS football):
Let the receiving team run the ball out of the end zone if they want to. If the return guy makes a bad decision, so there.
No penalty for a defensive guy lining up offsides if he gets back before the ball is snapped. It gives him no competitive advantage if he gets back on time, so let the play go on.
The ball carrier should not be down unless he is down by contact or touched while down. This goes for college, too. If the guy with the ball falls down for reasons completely uncaused by the other team, why should the defensive team benefit?
Here's a thought for all levels of football: don't blow the play dead on a false start. If a defensive player comes across the line early, the offense gets a free play. If an offensive guy starts early, let the play run and if there is a turnover, the defense gets the ball. They do it on illegal procedure, so why not on false starts?
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Post by okie21 on Dec 26, 2006 23:43:05 GMT -5
I am all for the returning a kick out of the endzone..why would they ever establish that rule? They allow players to return the ball in every other state I have seen HS football.
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Post by Automic on Dec 27, 2006 13:43:51 GMT -5
I am all for the returning a kick out of the endzone..why would they ever establish that rule? They allow players to return the ball in every other state I have seen HS football. They don't let them do it in Arkansas and I thought the UIL down in Texas didnt allow it either |
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Post by trojansrule on Dec 27, 2006 17:15:13 GMT -5
I cannot imagine what the thought process is behind not allowing the ball to be run out of the endzone on a kick return. Is the rule the same for a punt as for a kickoff?
Another bad rule - if a pass is clearly uncatchable, it should not be interference. I realize that creates another judgment rule for the ref to make, but they should be able to handle it on most plays. The purpose behind penalites is, or should be, to prevent: A) injuries, or, B) unfair competitive advantage. If a pass is uncatchable, any contact is incidental and calling a penalty does not serve either of the two purposes.
Heck, I believe that if there is contact with a receiver who is not even conceivably the intended receiver (pass to the left side of the field, contact with a receiver on the right side of the field while the ball is in the air), that shouldn't be called, either.
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Post by Automic on Dec 27, 2006 19:08:19 GMT -5
I cannot imagine what the thought process is behind not allowing the ball to be run out of the endzone on a kick return. Is the rule the same for a punt as for a kickoff? Another bad rule - if a pass is clearly uncatchable, it should not be interference. I realize that creates another judgment rule for the ref to make, but they should be able to handle it on most plays. The purpose behind penalites is, or should be, to prevent: A) injuries, or, B) unfair competitive advantage. If a pass is uncatchable, any contact is incidental and calling a penalty does not serve either of the two purposes. I think at all levels the punt thing is the same. As for the uncatchable ball, isn't that a rule? Or have I not payed attention enough in HS ball that I've missed it. At the college and pro level, that is a rule and is signaled when the official waves his right hand over the top of his head. |
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Post by trojansrule on Dec 27, 2006 21:32:07 GMT -5
I could be wrong on this (there's a first time for everything), but I believe that whether the pass is catchable is not taken into consideration in calling pass interference except in the pros.
Don't see this one much in high school, but one of the worst penalties ever is 15 yards for showboating in the end zone. Doing a dance (which I hate, because I am an old-schooler) should not bring the same penalty as a late hit, or trying to rip a guy's head off using the face mask.
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Post by maroonsports on Dec 27, 2006 22:34:40 GMT -5
They don't let them do it in Arkansas and I thought the UIL down in Texas didnt allow it either In Texas the ball is live in the End Zone. We have had a team just let it go and we recoved for a TD. |
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Post by okie21 on Dec 28, 2006 12:21:46 GMT -5
I am all for the returning a kick out of the endzone..why would they ever establish that rule? They allow players to return the ball in every other state I have seen HS football. They don't let them do it in Arkansas and I thought the UIL down in Texas didnt allow it either I know in TX you can return kicks from the endzone. Stupid rule..it allows teams who have a kicker who can kick to the endzone a huge advantage. Teams like Union who has a kicker who kicks it out of the endzone can force every team to start from the 20.....makes it tough for teams like BTW, Muskogee, Lawton, and etc who have great return guys. |
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Post by trojansrule on Dec 28, 2006 16:16:15 GMT -5
They don't let them do it in Arkansas and I thought the UIL down in Texas didnt allow it either I know in TX you can return kicks from the endzone. Stupid rule..it allows teams who have a kicker who can kick to the endzone a huge advantage. Teams like Union who has a kicker who kicks it out of the endzone can force every team to start from the 20.....makes it tough for teams like BTW, Muskogee, Lawton, and etc who have great return guys. Uh, Okie, if the Union kicker kicks it out of the end zone, the rule in question doesn't apply. And what's so bad about taking return guys out of the game by having a great kicker, anyway? There's nothing wrong with taking a great runner out of the game with great linemen or linebackers. That's all part of the game, using the weapons you have. If my kicker could kick it out of the end zone, I would force the other team to go 80 yards every time. One problem under the present rule is that a kicker doesn't even have to be that good in order to eliminate the runback. Just so long as the ball makes it into the end zone, there's no return. It doesn't matter if it has rolled 15 yards to get there. |
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Post by okie21 on Dec 29, 2006 22:08:28 GMT -5
I know in TX you can return kicks from the endzone. Stupid rule..it allows teams who have a kicker who can kick to the endzone a huge advantage. Teams like Union who has a kicker who kicks it out of the endzone can force every team to start from the 20.....makes it tough for teams like BTW, Muskogee, Lawton, and etc who have great return guys. Uh, Okie, if the Union kicker kicks it out of the end zone, the rule in question doesn't apply. And what's so bad about taking return guys out of the game by having a great kicker, anyway? There's nothing wrong with taking a great runner out of the game with great linemen or linebackers. That's all part of the game, using the weapons you have. If my kicker could kick it out of the end zone, I would force the other team to go 80 yards every time. One problem under the present rule is that a kicker doesn't even have to be that good in order to eliminate the runback. Just so long as the ball makes it into the end zone, there's no return. It doesn't matter if it has rolled 15 yards to get there. 1. If you have a good cover team & a good kicker then the rule would actually help more...your kicker can kick it 5 yards deep and your team covers....return teams might be stupid to even attempt to return it, and if they do there is a good chance they will be pinned inside the 20. But that should at least be an option for the return team. 2. A RB at least gets a chance to run....so lineman and LBs have to actually stop him..not some rule. 3. How many times do you see a kickoff roll 15 yards into the endzone? Is there even a return team? 4. The only good thing about the rule is that if you have a kicker who can kick to the endzone a high percantage of time....a coach can let the kids who would never get to play, play on the kickoff team. |
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Post by dogfootball on Jan 1, 2007 23:41:58 GMT -5
pass interferance shuld be spot of the foul not 15 yards
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Post by Baashar on Jan 2, 2007 1:33:50 GMT -5
pass interferance shuld be spot of the foul not 15 yards Agreed. Imagine if it was like a 60 yard pass. |
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Post by trojansrule on Jan 2, 2007 11:06:59 GMT -5
I tend to agree with you all on the pass interference being a spot of the foul penalty instead of 15 yards from the previous spot. It has always seemed wrong that a DB could make a good play by intentionally interfering with a receiver on a long pass rather than taking the chance that the catch would be made.
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