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Post by Automic on Feb 7, 2007 0:50:55 GMT -5
Apparently Jenks Public Schools has suspended 200+ kids yesterday due to facebook pictures of "inappropriate" activities. On what grounds can the school do this if the pictures are not taken on school grounds or at school sponsored events?
I feel a major parent backlash coming on!
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Post by trojansrule on Feb 7, 2007 7:58:04 GMT -5
If there is evidence that kids have violated their written assurances not to partake of banned substances, regardless of time, manner, or place, they can be suspended.
It never ceases to amaze how kids can be so stupid to think that myspace, facebook, xanga, etc. are private and are good places to reveal their questionable behavior to the internet. Once it's online, it's fair game.
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Post by Baashar on Feb 7, 2007 8:53:35 GMT -5
Thats so messed up, Id fight it. The school should have no right to punish students who have done nothing on their campus. What people want to do within the privacy of their own home is not the schools concern.
This reminds me of when my friend Jackson made a satirical Xanga about the I High Staff where he would write about the stuff they did in a sarcastic manner. The school suspended him, threw him in IP for the rest of the year. ( By the way, Jackson is a top drama student at Union, and holds a GPA thats above a 4.0 I think, never even had a detention before probably ) I rallied behind him, created a petition, we got hundreds of signatures on it, the ACLU got involved, I even got an email from Kim Jackson ( I think channel 8 or 6 ) and she wanted to cover it, break it wide open, I didnt allow it to happen but Jackson was released from IP once the I High staff became aware of the sh!t storm that was about to come their way.
The I High staff is kinda f-ed up though. Its run really poorly. Theres been so much violence and other issues there. My freshman year, basically all year long there was violent fighting between the skaters and the mexicans, we had gun threats all the time, weapons found all the time, police arresting kids in the hallways or the bus loop all the time. That was just the start though. Theres been issues every year since as well. Hell, just this year there was a major gun threat, most of the school didnt even show up it was so severe.
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Post by trojansrule on Feb 7, 2007 9:28:02 GMT -5
Sorry, guys, but if the students signed a statement not to use drugs or alcohol and that if they are caught doing so, they risk suspension, period, end of sentence. Doesn't matter where it is done or when so long as the pledge is in effect.
If an NFL player tests positive for drugs in the off-season, he is still subject to discipline by the league. If an NFL player tests positive for drugs he used in the privacy of his own home, he is busted. Doesn't matter where or when he used them.
I may not be in the majority on this forum for taking this position, but I am pleased to see the administration take action to discourage drug and alcohol use by students. It's pretty difficult to defend a conduct that is both illegal and against a written pledge signed by the students as a condition for participation in extracurricular activities.
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Post by scooterjumbo on Feb 7, 2007 10:19:21 GMT -5
This happens at Jenks in the 90's when a bunch of kids were caught drinking somewhere near the tracks. I don't condone drinking of HS students. But if your gonna drink, drink responsible, don't drink in public and don't post your pics on facebook.
The kids who didn't get caught will think twice next time. Hopefully, these kids will learn from their mistakes and put the lesson into action. There are many alcoholics being formed in the HS ranks today. I commend the Jenks admin. for taking such a bold stance on HS drinking.
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Post by just4kixx on Feb 7, 2007 10:39:17 GMT -5
Apparently Jenks Public Schools has suspended 200+ kids yesterday due to facebook pictures of "inappropriate" activities. On what grounds can the school do this if the pictures are not taken on school grounds or at school sponsored events? I feel a major parent backlash coming on! Do you have any more details? News story. I'd like to have a little more information before commenting. |
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Post by Automic on Feb 7, 2007 11:31:31 GMT -5
Apparently Jenks Public Schools has suspended 200+ kids yesterday due to facebook pictures of "inappropriate" activities. On what grounds can the school do this if the pictures are not taken on school grounds or at school sponsored events? I feel a major parent backlash coming on! Do you have any more details? News story. I'd like to have a little more information before commenting. Have heard from a couple of athletes, trainers, and students. That's the number I was given, I'll try to get more detail tomorrow, I'll probably be at the school a little bit |
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Post by scfan on Feb 7, 2007 11:42:05 GMT -5
The other thing to remember is that the school can suspend kids if the "offsite activity" causes disruption at school. This happens with off-campus fights a lot.
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Post by scfan on Feb 7, 2007 11:43:47 GMT -5
Oh, and the other thing....if the activities are innapropriate or illegal...as a parent, I wouldn't backlash anything except my kids arse.
But, since I don't know the details, we'll just leave it with that.
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Post by fartmanj15 on Feb 7, 2007 12:22:46 GMT -5
wow im not even sure what to say i mean that is big.....im about 50/50 on this one cause idk what you do at home on your own time is your business yet if you sign a contract then well you desirve it.....and why would jenks public schools want to snoop around to find 200 kids doin this?
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Post by just4kixx on Feb 7, 2007 12:26:55 GMT -5
wow im not even sure what to say i mean that is big.....im about 50/50 on this one cause idk what you do at home on your own time is your business yet if you sign a contract then well you desirve it.....and why would jenks public schools want to snoop around to find 200 kids doin this? It could have been brought to their attention by law enforcement. We have quite a few cops at Church that let us know that most teenage parties are busted because of information spilled on these sites. Again, I don't know the details.....I'll be interested to know more details as soon as they're available. |
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Post by fartmanj15 on Feb 7, 2007 12:44:53 GMT -5
yea but 200+ kids? lol even the jenks police department wouldnt do sumthin that dump lol thats half my senior class
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Post by trojansrule on Feb 7, 2007 14:01:42 GMT -5
I tend to doubt the 200 figure, but from what my sophomore daughter at JHS tells me, the basic information is correct.
With events such as Columbine in everyone's collective memory, and the fact that clues pointing to many such incidents are often available on blogs or personal sites, it may be that a school district is not doing its duty to protect students if it fails to review those sites for such clues. It wouldn't be much comfort to the grieving parents for administrators to say, "yeah, sure, there were indications of this all over this kid's Myspace, but we didn't want to invade his privacy, even though he was the one who chose to put it out there for the world to see."
There's no doubt that this can be abused. The fact remains, however, that once something is placed on the internet for public consumption, all expectation of privacy has left the building. If you are stupid enough to think it's cool to publish evidence of your violation of your signed pledge not to do something, don't be surprised or upset when it comes back to bite you in the butt.
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Post by johnnymac on Feb 7, 2007 14:06:26 GMT -5
I understand the legal arguements that will be made as to what you can prove vs. what you can't prove by pictures on a website. What I take issue with are the comments that are made regarding what these kids can do vs. can't do, on campus vs. off campus, at home vs. in public.
The fact of the matter is unless these kids are 21, alcohol consumption is illegal. These parents that will undoubtedly fight this issue need to think about the lessons they are teaching their kids. Whether the kids were drinking or not, sometimes guilt by association can be just as bad as guilt itself. Better to learn this lesson now then learn an even harder lesson later.
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Post by scooterjumbo on Feb 7, 2007 14:46:55 GMT -5
Don't be a BOMAR and drink in front of 18,000 at the Ford Center and not expect to get in trouble.
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